- Welcome to Food Allergy Support.
Posted by ajasfolks2
- June 13, 2013, 05:19:06 PMSoooooooo if refuse to sign waiver do they not allow child to attend?
just me wondering
just me wondering
Posted by maeve
- June 13, 2013, 11:58:33 AMQuote from: ajasfolks2 on June 12, 2013, 06:00:31 PMQuote from: ajasfolks2 on June 12, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
The permission slip is implying there may/will be "accommodations" of sorts for those with LTFA . . . is this an attempt to NOT have a 504 . . . part of the "appearances" of being concerned and diligent in effort to NOT have 504 for the LTFA students?
Have already experienced an attempt at soft-sell of "IHCP will do" recently.
Just makes me wonder.
Adding,
I guess what I'm trying to say is,
isn't this really a violation of Section 504 and process? Cart before horse = accommodations before or without official eligibility.
Maybe they have no clue that this is outside 504 process and not ok?
I think it's more a result of the fact that the vast majority of their students with food allergies do not have 504s and only have the IHCP form filled out. So they're aware of and have more students with food allergies than number of allergic students with 504s, and they're trying to cover themselves from a liability standpoint. You'll see in the forms that come home on the first day of school that there is an insurance/liability waiver that you must sign. It's for all students and would apply if your child, say, injured herself in gym class. That was something new this past year.
Posted by ajasfolks2
- June 12, 2013, 06:00:31 PMQuote from: ajasfolks2 on June 12, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
The permission slip is implying there may/will be "accommodations" of sorts for those with LTFA . . . is this an attempt to NOT have a 504 . . . part of the "appearances" of being concerned and diligent in effort to NOT have 504 for the LTFA students?
Have already experienced an attempt at soft-sell of "IHCP will do" recently.
Just makes me wonder.
Adding,
I guess what I'm trying to say is,
isn't this really a violation of Section 504 and process? Cart before horse = accommodations before or without official eligibility.
Maybe they have no clue that this is outside 504 process and not ok?
Posted by ajasfolks2
- June 12, 2013, 05:41:44 PMPutting these related links in here for this county (Loudoun County, Virginia) as to its food allergy policy and procedures:
The 67-page doc with the original language from 2010:
http://www.lcps.org/cms/lib4/VA01000195/centricity/domain/8942/food_allergies_school.pdf
Related :
http://www.lcps.org/cms/lib4/VA01000195/centricity/domain/8942/keys_points_from_the_severe_allergy_presentation_for_element_09.pdf
The 67-page doc with the original language from 2010:
http://www.lcps.org/cms/lib4/VA01000195/centricity/domain/8942/food_allergies_school.pdf
Related :
http://www.lcps.org/cms/lib4/VA01000195/centricity/domain/8942/keys_points_from_the_severe_allergy_presentation_for_element_09.pdf
Posted by ajasfolks2
- June 12, 2013, 05:23:56 PMThe permission slip is implying there may/will be "accommodations" of sorts for those with LTFA . . . is this an attempt to NOT have a 504 . . . part of the "appearances" of being concerned and diligent in effort to NOT have 504 for the LTFA students?
Have already experienced an attempt at soft-sell of "IHCP will do" recently.
Just makes me wonder.
Have already experienced an attempt at soft-sell of "IHCP will do" recently.
Just makes me wonder.
Posted by twinturbo
- June 07, 2013, 06:21:00 AMI know many of us have the support of our allergists on food use in curriculums. Has anyone reported to their child's dentist what the kids are being fed in class in a school year? There are many initiatives by the American Dentistry Association to reduce or outright ban non-nutritious "competitive" foods offered in vending machines. Curriculum candy, testing candy, candy for parties, cakes for birthdays, all the just-cause candy or cakes, I think there's an argument there that this parallels the problem with vending machine "competitive" foods.
I may include a statement from the kids dentist regarding oral health in conjunction with a statement from our allergist in our next IEP meeting to keep the food use at bay.
I may include a statement from the kids dentist regarding oral health in conjunction with a statement from our allergist in our next IEP meeting to keep the food use at bay.
Posted by maeve
- June 06, 2013, 01:27:32 PMQuote from: twinturbo on June 06, 2013, 10:50:34 AM
maeve, may I ask what the s'mores lesson was about? I'd guess melting points?
I think it was about heat transfer but melting points makes sense. I can't find the permission slip. I thought I'd received it in an email, but I was mistaken.
Well, we couldn't get through the last day of school without food. DD called me about 10 minutes ago to ask if she could have a Tootsie Pop that her teacher was passing out. She read the ingredients over the phone and confirmed that the packaging was Tootsie's, so I let her have one.
Ugh.Posted by Macabre
- June 06, 2013, 11:39:03 AMYKW without a 504, the answer is where it is everywhere else: if you have a school who works with you, you can expect some notification. If not, you can't.
I referred to a 504 superceding this, because the members that we have in that SD do have 504s. And I do know that SD is aware of 504s from other things they've published online.
A 504 that specifies 48 hours notice for food experiments and food events (they are different things), should supercede this. A violation can always be documented and acted upon.
I referred to a 504 superceding this, because the members that we have in that SD do have 504s. And I do know that SD is aware of 504s from other things they've published online.
A 504 that specifies 48 hours notice for food experiments and food events (they are different things), should supercede this. A violation can always be documented and acted upon.
Posted by twinturbo
- June 06, 2013, 10:50:34 AMmaeve, may I ask what the s'mores lesson was about? I'd guess melting points?
Posted by maeve
- June 06, 2013, 10:02:58 AMQuote from: CMdeux on June 05, 2013, 10:47:22 PM
Am I reading this correctly, also, in that this is a blanket waiver, in terms of language?
That is, does it have no specific event/date attached?
Yowza.
No way, no how would I sign that even without FA's in play. I want to KNOW if you opt to include feeding stuff to my child as part and parcel of the instructional part of the day, tyvm.
Each. and. every. time.
Yes you are correct. In the case of DD's s'mores experiment permission slip, no specific day was mentioned; the form only said "in the upcoming week." That's likely because of block scheduling (A/B) days. Unfortunately, it lead to me not sending anything in for DD. Thankfully, her BFF and lab partner, has the same allergies and had safe items to share with DD. DD called me and I OKed the items.
Trust me that even with a food allergy policy in place, it is not uncommon in this particular district for teachers to toss out candy because "the kids are working hard (reasoning of DD's 5th grade math teacher for tossing out Lifesavers)." Oh and in this same district, the prizes for the gift wrap fundraiser generally are something along the lines of "limo pizza party" (which was even immortalized in DD's yearbook this year). The home ec class participates in an Iron Chef like competition, one middle school goes to a local conference center on a field trip to do a food based program (again sort of Iron Chef-related). In many ways, I think things in this district are worse since the food allergy policy was published.
Posted by CMdeux
- June 05, 2013, 10:47:22 PMAm I reading this correctly, also, in that this is a blanket waiver, in terms of language?
That is, does it have no specific event/date attached?
Yowza.
No way, no how would I sign that even without FA's in play. I want to KNOW if you opt to include feeding stuff to my child as part and parcel of the instructional part of the day, tyvm.
Each. and. every. time.
That is, does it have no specific event/date attached?
Yowza.
No way, no how would I sign that even without FA's in play. I want to KNOW if you opt to include feeding stuff to my child as part and parcel of the instructional part of the day, tyvm.
Each. and. every. time.
Posted by YouKnowWho
- June 05, 2013, 10:41:02 PMAnd what if your child doesn't have a 504?
DS2 tests positive for peanuts but to the best of our knowledge has never had a reaction. The numbers have been consistently high enough and has had a prior reaction history to legumes (which has since resolved), that our rather aggressive allergist refuses to challenge.
Legal or not, he has been turned down for a 504. And I haven't pushed for it because I am in the process of fighting for DS1's who does have a strong reactive history. And when it comes down to it, they work harder to keep a child who may or may not be allergic to peanuts safer than a child who is definitively allergic to wheat, rye, barley and egg. Media hype plays well for one child but not another.
And it's one thing when you have only 15-30 kids on a daily basis (and probably easier since DS1 is the only one allergic to foods in his grade but it always seems to be a freaking surprise) but another when you are dealing with 6 classes of 30 students. Yes, 504 should take care of it - but does it? How many kids out there have parents that don't fight the fight, don't realize that 504's are available, mark their child has food allergies but no epis, do I go on?
DS2 tests positive for peanuts but to the best of our knowledge has never had a reaction. The numbers have been consistently high enough and has had a prior reaction history to legumes (which has since resolved), that our rather aggressive allergist refuses to challenge.
Legal or not, he has been turned down for a 504. And I haven't pushed for it because I am in the process of fighting for DS1's who does have a strong reactive history. And when it comes down to it, they work harder to keep a child who may or may not be allergic to peanuts safer than a child who is definitively allergic to wheat, rye, barley and egg. Media hype plays well for one child but not another.
And it's one thing when you have only 15-30 kids on a daily basis (and probably easier since DS1 is the only one allergic to foods in his grade but it always seems to be a freaking surprise) but another when you are dealing with 6 classes of 30 students. Yes, 504 should take care of it - but does it? How many kids out there have parents that don't fight the fight, don't realize that 504's are available, mark their child has food allergies but no epis, do I go on?
Posted by ajasfolks2
- June 05, 2013, 09:43:28 PM
Posted by Macabre
- June 05, 2013, 09:07:46 PMAh. 
I remember your connection there. Via Ken Burns.
I remember your connection there. Via Ken Burns. Posted by ajasfolks2
- June 05, 2013, 08:30:21 PMSo, yeah. Just felt I'd like to cross-post and quote from the "Food in Schools" thread.
GAH!!!!!
GAH!!!!!
Quote from: ajasfolks2 on March 30, 2013, 06:52:20 AM
Seemed as good a place as any for this quote:
Old adage among the rangers at Yellowstone: "Once a bear is hooked on garbage, there's no cure."