I know this is old, but just some thoughts.

I also hope he gets the help and education to better manage his allergies.

As far as calling a relative before 911,  I can understand people doing that, even when 911 should be first call.

Also, his career could be a tough one to manage allergies with all the traveling, and probably having to go out to eat a lot.

Quote from: hedgehog on March 13, 2014, 05:57:50 PM
Just playing devil's advocate, that is more or less what I tell people about DS now that he has been desensitized.  Because, ally, we no offer need to worry about X-contamination, but we don't know that an actual serving of peanuts (more than his daily dose) would be safe.

hedgie,
The impression I got was that if there were a baked item with peanuts (like peanut butter cookies) that that would be OK for this child. I didn't get the sense that the child had gone through desensitization (it's not very common in our area and true desensitization studies are only being done in a few locations; it is still in clinical trials). That said, if DD had gone through desensitization and were on a maintenance dose, I'd probably still tell caregivers not to allow her to eat peanut containing items when she's not with us. But then we'll never have to deal with this because she's unlikely to ever be a candidate for a study.

From the way it's written I get the impression that he normally just epis and/or takes benadryl and doesn't go to the ER every time.

And whatever happened to avoidance? If he has that many reactions and is eating asian food does he even make an effort to avoid?

I feel like tweeting him to tell him how to deal with this in the future.

He clearly has some allergy training and knowledge, but it seems he needs a lot more about xc, how to avoid it, and the kinds of questions he needs to ask.

QuoteHe gave himself a shot of epinephrine that he always has with him, and a Benadryl, but it didn't get the job done this time around.

Just playing devil's advocate, that is more or less what I tell people about DS now that he has been desensitized.  Because, ally, we no offer need to worry about X-contamination, but we don't know that an actual serving of peanuts (more than his daily dose) would be safe.

Quote from: Macabre on March 13, 2014, 12:58:40 PM
Though it seems unnatural that someone could be so clueless about cross contamination. Even if peanut oil were not used, the likelihood of XC is so great. It's just really stupid to eat at such a risky place if you've got peanut allergy. Or shellfish allergy. Or sesame allergy.

It doesn't to me. Recently DD's Girl Scout participated in World Thinking Day (each troop develops a booth/presentation about an assigned country). Most booths featured food, including DD's troop (even though the troop mom's daughter also has PA). DD's troop had England, so they gave out bags of tea and scones. Every troop visits each booth, so every few minutes the troops rotate booths. I volunteered for a couple of hours and was assigned to pass out the scones. A girl of 9 to 10 came to the booth and asked if they had nuts in them. The scones were from Wegman's. No nuts were listed in the ingredients but cross-contamination warning was listed somewhere else on the packaging. I told the girl that she shouldn't have them; then her troop leader popped by and said: "Her mom said she can't have peanuts by themselves but that she can have them if they're baked/cooked into items." I advised the troop leader that I wouldn't take the risk and she said she really doesn't know about PA and was going by what the mom had told her.  There was no way I was going to take the liability. I asked the troop leader if the girl had an EpiPen and she said no. I told the troop leader that a reaction is really scary and it's not something that the other kids at the event should see.

So yeah, I can totally see people not getting cross-contamination. If a parent of a kid with PA things peanuts are OK in baked goods, then anything is fair game.

Seems like a lax attitude.  He called his mom and not 911?!?  He's lucky he was at the hospital when the second phase set in.


DD just came down so I read it to her, she rolled her eyes in disgust and then screamed in frustration.  When I got to the part about the second phase, she said what did he expect?  What's wrong with him?  He's 27 and doesn't know?!?

It seems he did not call an ambulance.

Given his age, if he's had this since childhood, he may not be under the care of an allergist. He might just get his epis from his GP.

Though it seems unnatural that someone could be so clueless about cross contamination. Even if peanut oil were not used, the likelihood of XC is so great. It's just really stupid to eat at such a risky place if you've got peanut allergy. Or shellfish allergy. Or sesame allergy.


Guess where my family doesn't go?

Quote from: starlight on March 13, 2014, 12:01:43 PM
I will never understand why nut allergic people try to eat Asian food from restaurants. Um, hello?

He is also a 27-year-old who called his mother who told him to go to a hospital.  It sounds to me like he maybe never quite learned how to manage his allergy, since his mother always did.

That has got to be poor patient education.  Has to be.

I've run into SO many people who didn't understand why nut or shellfish was so risky in Asian cuisine.  They always seem shocked.

I will never understand why nut allergic people try to eat Asian food from restaurants. Um, hello?