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Posted by SilverLining
 - January 08, 2015, 11:15:52 PM
It's US.

Hot chocolate pod for the Keurig.
Posted by guess
 - January 08, 2015, 11:11:32 PM
Quote from: SilverLining on January 08, 2015, 02:04:03 PM


So, I heard back from the company. They said: Thank you for your question. Our Hot Cocoas contain absolutely no nut allergens.

I did ask peanut, they answered nut.

Out of curiosity is it a domestic product?  I know it would have to comply with Canadian labeling law regardless but I had an interesting conversation with Sunrype's cs about what allergen cya changes the USA distributor put up on the American site for the same product. 
Posted by 2ndGenAllergyMom
 - January 08, 2015, 02:50:15 PM
Quote from: rebekahc on January 08, 2015, 08:58:51 AM
Apparently, an investigative journalist.

Yes.  The book is over ten years old, but I only just read it a few years ago.  It sparked my interest in knowing more about food.
Posted by SilverLining
 - January 08, 2015, 02:04:03 PM
Quote from: hk on January 08, 2015, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: SilverLining on January 07, 2015, 12:56:12 PM
( My apologies to anyone that just spewed coffee on their keyboard.)

Thanks!  I came quite close to doing exactly that!

:)

So, I heard back from the company. They said: Thank you for your question. Our Hot Cocoas contain absolutely no nut allergens.

I did ask peanut, they answered nut.
Posted by hk
 - January 08, 2015, 11:52:50 AM
Quote from: SilverLining on January 07, 2015, 12:56:12 PM
( My apologies to anyone that just spewed coffee on their keyboard.)

Thanks!  I came quite close to doing exactly that!
Posted by rebekahc
 - January 08, 2015, 08:58:51 AM
Apparently, an investigative journalist.
Posted by guess
 - January 08, 2015, 08:49:39 AM
Who is Eric Schlosser?
Posted by TwoDDs
 - January 08, 2015, 08:09:51 AM
Thanks Eileen, that's helpful.  I never made any distinction between natural and artificial flavors and assumed they could all be contaminated.
Posted by 2ndGenAllergyMom
 - January 07, 2015, 10:19:47 PM
Artificial flavorings and "natural" flavorings are essentially the same thing, they are only derived differently.  Neither comes even remotely close to "nature," they are simply chemicals.  The "natural" ones are derived from foods, plants, or other substances that might be considered "natural" in their original state, which is why you will see seemingly-unrelated allergen warnings following a "natural flavor" ingredient.  Those natural flavors are still subject to FALCPA.  Artificial flavors are the same chemical compounds, but are derived by mixing other chemicals together.  So if it doesn't mention peanut anywhere (which it doesn't) then real peanut isn't present.  And since they have the soy warning, I would hope they would have voluntarily mentioned all possible CC.

This could be a good way for someone with PA to try the flavor, if they're interested.  Personally, I have zero interest in trying artificial nut flavors, more for the very healthy aversion I've developed to real nuts than any feeling of real danger.

Source:  Fast Food Nation by Eric Schlosser
Posted by guess
 - January 07, 2015, 01:34:19 PM
Not at all.  I knew there had to be something else that raised your suspicions.  From what I know of some products of USA origin that use artificial flavo(u)ring to mimic peanut they are artificial hazelnut flavoring whatever that might be.  Examples off the top of my head are top 8 friendly flavor straws that include PB & chocolate, and I believe Watkins peanut butter cookie extract both use these artificial hazelnut flavors to mimic peanut butter.  Torani syrup also has an artificial hazelnut syrup without any nut extracts.  The bottle is labeled "Nut Free", and similarly the Starbucks syrup flavors of toffee nut and pralines are also artificially flavored with no nut ingredient. 
Posted by SilverLining
 - January 07, 2015, 12:56:12 PM
( My apologies to anyone that just spewed coffee on their keyboard.)
Posted by SilverLining
 - January 07, 2015, 12:55:18 PM
Quote from: guess on January 07, 2015, 11:47:22 AM
Nothing as written raises flags.  What roused your suspicions?  I'm wondering if something else like a product that shares the line or previous recalls?  Or was it the cocoa as others mention?

It's called "Peanutbutter cup".

But, everything I found when looking into Hazlenut flavoured coffee, it was artificial flavour and had 0 real nut in it. (That may not be true of all, but one specific one I had looked into.)
Posted by guess
 - January 07, 2015, 11:47:22 AM
Nothing as written raises flags.  What roused your suspicions?  I'm wondering if something else like a product that shares the line or previous recalls?  Or was it the cocoa as others mention?
Posted by CMdeux
 - January 07, 2015, 11:22:22 AM
Yup-- what R and PC said.  :yes:
Posted by PurpleCat
 - January 07, 2015, 10:28:02 AM
I would question if the cocoa is safe if you were going to drink it.  That happened once with a hot chocolate when DD was very small.  They did not add nut, but the cocoa came from a place that did have a variety of peanuts, almonds, and a few others I can not remember in the same facility.