Quote from: CMdeux on November 18, 2013, 03:02:19 PM
Maybe.  I'm not sure that the answer is a clear yes/no.

I suppose that it is POSSIBLE... but on the other hand:

a) I know of no reason why shellfish would be involved in rice production, harvesting, or packaging, and
b) I have never encountered a plain rice which has given me a problem.

Now, I fully concede that it's possible that I'm allergic to an atypical crustacean protein or something like that, which would make this particular set of anecdata useless...  so.

My impression has been that you are a lot more sensitized than me, so I will go with your gut (and skin and airways) and assume rice is clean of shellfish. I had gastro and skin reactions to pills containing rice and brown rice syrup in canned foods, so it's something, but I never figured out what. It seemed related to protein since brown rice always gave me a lot more trouble but I do not think of the reactions I had as particularly classically food allergy. 

Maybe.  I'm not sure that the answer is a clear yes/no.

I suppose that it is POSSIBLE... but on the other hand:

a) I know of no reason why shellfish would be involved in rice production, harvesting, or packaging, and
b) I have never encountered a plain rice which has given me a problem.

Now, I fully concede that it's possible that I'm allergic to an atypical crustacean protein or something like that, which would make this particular set of anecdata useless...  so.

Quote from: twinturbo on November 18, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
No

CMdeux most likely eats CalRose rice which is a plain, medium grain rice crop grown in Cali. It's such a successful crop much is exported to Asia. My money puts odds she's eating a single ingredient from a dedicated facility, dedicated because they produce so dang much. Whether this has an influence on her 'luck' eating rice for years on end w/o shellfish contam...

She mentioned she does not eat a boxed rice which I take to mean nothing with compound ingredients,  to make a yellow rice it would need something such as turmeric or annato, etc. Assuming a facility that manufactures multi-ingredient products like that has more than just turmeric or annato, it would likely manufacture a great deal of products.

She's also not guessing at what she's allergic to, she knows it's shellfish and not rice. Based on what I know of rice production which is most likely what she consumes (Calrose) due to geographic area (which I know quite well), the rice (also quite well), and that a while back she mentioned Lundberg in bulk and Calrose rice from Costco, and that she's eaten a metric ton of it (I'm quite familiar with the big bags as I've eaten many metric tons).

I take it that she's specifying the rice she eats as a minimally manufactured product unlikely to be contaminated as opposed to say a boxed rice, which is what I believe she said

QuoteMust be boxed mixes

.

How she eats nori I have no idea.

That is a lot of words for "no"  .

Quote from: twinturbo on November 18, 2013, 09:57:48 AM
CMdeux most likely eats CalRose rice which is a plain, medium grain rice crop grown in Cali. It's such a successful crop much is exported to Asia. My money puts odds she's eating a single ingredient from a dedicated facility, dedicated because they produce so dang much. Whether this has an influence on her 'luck' eating rice for years on end w/o shellfish contam... 

All kinds, actually-- Lundberg brown rice in 30lb bags, CalRose, etc.

We eat quite a bit of rice.  But because of DD's allergies, mine, and DH's, we generally do NOT use any kind of seasoning mix WITH that rice.  Anything that would make rice "yellow" (as TT notes) would be suspect, imo.

WRT rice flour-- Mochiko?  I've not eaten much of it since my SFA emerged because it's about the same time that DD outgrew her wheat allergy. 

If you're buying in bulk, also be aware that cross-contamination can be happening... and it can be to weird, weird things.  DH has some history of allergy to something.... odd like that.  Seriously, just odd-- so specific and reproducible, clearly IgE-mediated, and yet... idiosyncratic since he eats all of the components otherwise.     YK?

No

CMdeux most likely eats CalRose rice which is a plain, medium grain rice crop grown in Cali. It's such a successful crop much is exported to Asia. My money puts odds she's eating a single ingredient from a dedicated facility, dedicated because they produce so dang much. Whether this has an influence on her 'luck' eating rice for years on end w/o shellfish contam...

She mentioned she does not eat a boxed rice which I take to mean nothing with compound ingredients,  to make a yellow rice it would need something such as turmeric or annato, etc. Assuming a facility that manufactures multi-ingredient products like that has more than just turmeric or annato, it would likely manufacture a great deal of products.

She's also not guessing at what she's allergic to, she knows it's shellfish and not rice. Based on what I know of rice production which is most likely what she consumes (Calrose) due to geographic area (which I know quite well), the rice (also quite well), and that a while back she mentioned Lundberg in bulk and Calrose rice from Costco, and that she's eaten a metric ton of it (I'm quite familiar with the big bags as I've eaten many metric tons).

I take it that she's specifying the rice she eats as a minimally manufactured product unlikely to be contaminated as opposed to say a boxed rice, which is what I believe she said

QuoteMust be boxed mixes

.

How she eats nori I have no idea.

Quote from: twinturbo on November 18, 2013, 09:57:48 AM
CMdeux most likely eats CalRose rice which is a plain, medium grain rice crop grown in Cali. It's such a successful crop much is exported to Asia. My money puts odds she's eating a single ingredient from a dedicated facility, dedicated because they produce so dang much. Whether this has an influence on her 'luck' eating rice for years on end w/o shellfish contam... 

So, are you saying rice is often contaminated with shellfish? I always just bought whatever bulk brown rice and often rice flour (after hubby had to give up gluten). It's been years since I at it, but I always wondered why the spots? This was before I developed anaphylaxis. I just gave up eating it and never thought about it again.

CMdeux most likely eats CalRose rice which is a plain, medium grain rice crop grown in Cali. It's such a successful crop much is exported to Asia. My money puts odds she's eating a single ingredient from a dedicated facility, dedicated because they produce so dang much. Whether this has an influence on her 'luck' eating rice for years on end w/o shellfish contam... 

Quote from: CMdeux on November 17, 2013, 10:53:23 PM
Must be boxed mixes, because I've eaten about a metric ton of bagged rice in the past ten years.

When I used to eat rice, I got "spots" - red, itchy ones on my torso and never felt good gastro-wise, especially with brown rice. I could never figure out what the spots were or why the reaction but I did give up rice over it. The above post made me wonder if it was really related to shellfish? I guess it will remain a mystery...

Must be boxed mixes, because I've eaten about a metric ton of bagged rice in the past ten years. 

Quote from: Anna on November 07, 2013, 02:19:35 PM
Watched for package rice too like yellow rice after getting sick on it as a kid a few times my mom called the company and it turns out they use selfish carcass to make there rice which was not listed on the package. Hope i was able to hep.

Wait, hold the phone. Is it an ingredient added to plain rice or do they actually do something with the plain rice with shellfish?

I am also highly allergic to fish and its not as easy as people think it is to avoid. I have gotten sick many of times not realizing that fish was in so many foods and going out to eat has becoming something I no longer bother with its just not worth it for me. As far as marshmallows go i have heard that to but i happen to love them and Jell-O and i have yet to have a problem stick with Kraft your better off don't try that other stuff. Also beware of BBQ sauces they have anchovies in it as well wishishere sauce this is used a lot in meats so you need to watch what things are being marinated in. Watch with Chinese food also I learned this the hard way they cook a lot of there food with osyer sauce or hoisin sauce both fish based. Watched for package rice too like yellow rice after getting sick on it as a kid a few times my mom called the company and it turns out they use selfish carcass to make there rice which was not listed on the package. Hope i was able to hep.

many vitamins and supplements may also contain gelatin.

Yogurt can contain gelatin.

I don't know whether gelatin is safe for fish allergies, but I'm vegetarian and avoid gelatin, so I can share that there are many products that'll help you avoid gelatin in products where it commonly exists.  Dandies and Sweet & Sara marshmallows do not have gelatin. 

Look out for gelatin in gummy candies, some brands of Jello, and some brands fruit gummies.

Thank you for the isinglass tip!  That is one I didn't have on the list.  Much appreciated.