Our situation is opposite yours, but we have our older eat eggs when he is with his grandparents or when we all split up for the day. Our home is egg free, so we take M to McD's or have Nana and Pop scramble some up.

The boys are never apart more than a few hours.  While M no longer mouths things (well not on a regular basis) he does still suck on his fingers when he's not physically engaged. The boys are constantly rough housing and I've never seen C react in anyway. But then again, I have no clue if he is contact reactive.

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Quote from: Macabre on September 08, 2013, 05:08:54 PM
I don't even remember how old they are by the time they stop mouthing everything. Oh wait--I do: 14.

I resent that.  I stopped mouthing things at eight, thankyouverymuch. 

Some never stop.  They just eventually switch to chewing pencils or smoking cigarettes.

Quote from: Macabre on September 08, 2013, 05:08:54 PM
I don't even remember how old they are by the time they stop mouthing everything. Oh wait--I do: 14.

I resent that.  I stopped mouthing things at eight, thankyouverymuch. 

CM just stole my thunder.

I was just going to come back to breast milk. But, you know, finding some way to get it to have extra protein.

Other than that, I honestly don't know. I don't even remember how old they are by the time they stop mouthing everything. Oh wait--I do: 14.

Really, I don't know.

I have wondered about egg protein on surfaces--and dairy. There has been some work done to study how long peanut protein remains on nonporous surfaces (and not enough work IMHO), but I've not seen anything about egg or dairy, and I've wondered about it.

And I would also like to see the same research to determine how long it says in saliva, and under what circumstances it is broken down. Frankly for all top 8. That would be interesting and helpful.

Quote from: krasota on September 08, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
If his contact hives were localized, I'd be much more casual.  They aren't/don't stay that way. I mean they happen from time to time and we don't freak out too much, but I'd prefer to limit his exposure when it comes to his own toys at home.  Also, I find hives and contact dermatitis miserable and I prefer to spare my kids that misery.

Absolutely.

I think that I probably wouldn't do it at this point.

I've tried to think of some way to have her eat more pure forms of egg-- but given your family's lifestyle (which I'm definitely NOT suggesting should change!!) I don't see a good way to make it safe and developmentally appropriate in terms of expectations.

Asking a child not to mouth objects for his/her own safety = not developmentally appropriate, but regrettably necessary (BTDT, basically)

Asking a child not to mouth objects for someone ELSE's safety = not developmentally appropriate and probably a losing battle anyway.

She's getting egg protein from you as long as she's getting breastmilk, yes?  So no worries on that score.

Sorry, Twinturbo. You edited to add content -- all I saw was the initial "LOL, yeah" when I replied. 

Obviously read too much into it. Carry on.

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Quote from: twinturbo on September 08, 2013, 11:38:18 AM
lol, yeah. 

I am trying not to read that in a negative way.

^Well, I was agreeing with you re: contact hives in the context of the topic, shared household multiple children eating each other's allergens. Is that negative?

Quote from: krasota on September 08, 2013, 11:53:20 AM
If his contact hives were localized, I'd be much more casual.  They aren't/don't stay that way. I mean they happen from time to time and we don't freak out too much, but I'd prefer to limit his exposure when it comes to his own toys at home.  Also, I find hives and contact dermatitis miserable and I prefer to spare my kids that misery.

What would be the best way to assist in this case? The risk is ultimately up to you. Strategically, given age of child eating egg and the nature of the allergen itself if all you're after is the nutritional content could you offer younger child high heat treated egg, often, to (1) get the nutritional content (2) be introduced to food (3) "take the fangs out" of egg in case DS comes in contact (4) talk to DS to see if he can raise his awareness a bit, not put fingers in his mouth, leave younger child's things alone (5) limit area eggy food is eaten.

I don't think you want to do the garage thing like we do. It's not fun.

If his contact hives were localized, I'd be much more casual.  They aren't/don't stay that way. I mean they happen from time to time and we don't freak out too much, but I'd prefer to limit his exposure when it comes to his own toys at home.  Also, I find hives and contact dermatitis miserable and I prefer to spare my kids that misery.

Quote from: twinturbo on September 08, 2013, 11:38:18 AM
lol, yeah. 

I am trying not to read that in a negative way.

lol, yeah.  We did change our tack to switching on the Zyrtec as the filter for further alarm otherwise we had daily hives. I'm not sure I'm casual about it but it did beat me down from immediate Benadryl.

Oh, sorry, Krasota...misread your OP. I'm not a good one to ask because we were very casual about contact hives.

A high heat challenge is not on the table.

I think krasota meant how to feed #2 child something #1 is allergic to without spreading it around in a way that #1 reacts to. Aside from my first post, the other way I can think of is child #1 challenges high heat egg then both eat the same thing. That's the lowest maintenance I can think of and both are eating the least allergenic form.

I don't know if I ever told the story about how we introduced solids to my daughter. Our doctor told us to be very cautious since our son had so many common allergens. So, we had decided to wait until 6 months and then introduce each food with long periods between.

Took her with us out to a Mexican restaurant. I turned my back for ONE SECOND and she had shoveled a fistful of my dinner into her mouth. Rice, beans (to which my son is allergic), cheese, sour cream, CHICKEN! She managed to swallow it all and then broke into this huge smile. She was a much bigger baby than my son and clearly did not want to wait!

Just saying - every kid is different. The current thought seems to favor earlier introduction of solids. If there is an environmental trigger that causes food allergies, waiting to introduce them may give more of a window. My daughter has no food allergies at all and I've often wondered if it was at least partly because she literally took matters into her own hands.

Baked egg is probably low-risk enough at this point, yes?

That is, even most highly allergic people over age 6 or so tolerate some amount of highly denatured egg protein, so I would think that you might be able to do that with your DD and not leave your DS at high risk from her mouthing objects.

On the other hand, that may simply be much more trouble than it is worth since I'm not sure you'd get enough protein/calories into her to make much difference.



I don't really see a clever way for her to get more pure forms of egg without increasing environmental contact risk to your DS.  Not until she's done mouthing objects, I mean.